totally newbie, first timer needs help

totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby johan72 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:33 pm

4 aug 2011 edited by fvdw
later it appeared that it concerned a Lacie internet space and not network space


Today I tried installing the fvdw firmware on my Lacie Network Space 500Gb.
I have little to none experience with linux versions, I'm a typical microsoft windows (power) user.

Downloaded the Ubuntu live CD, and following the guideline I managed to succeed upon procedure step (k).
I have tried many times somehow, even tried skipping step (k) and try out step (l).
With step (l), I get the same error/message.

I'm using an HP desktop with windows7, I booted it with the Ubuntu 11.04 x86 live CD.
The image/package files are stored on an 4GB USB stick, in rootdirectory. (label: USB)
The LaCie 500GB SATA disk is connected using an external USB/SATA docking.

With gparted I managed to figure out:
    USB stick /dev/sdd
    LaCie disk /dev/sdb (like in manual)

As mentioned I succeeded in steps (a) throughout (j).

    Disk /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
    255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
    Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disk identifier: 0x00093cae

    Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
    /dev/sdb1 1 32 257008+ 83 Linux
    /dev/sdb2 33 64 257040 83 Linux
    /dev/sdb3 65 96 257040 82 Linux swap / Solaris
    /dev/sdb4 97 60801 487612912+ 5 Extended
    /dev/sdb5 97 144 385528+ 83 Linux
    /dev/sdb6 145 145 8001 83 Linux
    /dev/sdb7 146 178 265041 83 Linux
    /dev/sdb8 179 60801 486954216 83 Linux

On step (k), I entered the following commandline:
sudo dd if=/dev/sdd/uImage-26331-2 of=/dev/sdb6

which gives me the following result:
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/dev/sdd/uImage-26331-2 of=/dev/sdb6
    dd: opening `/dev/sdd/uImage-26331-2': Not a directory

I get exactly the same result on step (l).
I assume it's all to blame to my lack of linux knowledge/experience.
Somehow I can't get the syntax right.
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Re: totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby johan72 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:23 pm

Ok, after having a cup of coffee, and sniffing around in Ubuntu, I got confirmation about being an newbie in this matter.

cleared step (k) and (l) moving on now...

    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/media/USB/uImage-26331-2 of=/dev/sdb6
    3609+1 records in
    3609+1 records out
    1848048 bytes (1.8 MB) copied, 7.1372 s, 259 kB/s
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/media/USB/fvdw-sl-8-0-31may2011.img of=/dev/sdb1
    313344+0 records in
    313344+0 records out
    160432128 bytes (160 MB) copied, 10.9791 s, 14.6 MB/s
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/media/USB/fvdw-sl-8-0-31may2011.img of=/dev/sdb2
    313344+0 records in
    313344+0 records out
    160432128 bytes (160 MB) copied, 27.47 s, 5.8 MB/s
    ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo dd if=/media/USB/fvdw-sl-8-0-31may2011.img of=/dev/sdb7
    313344+0 records in
    313344+0 records out
    160432128 bytes (160 MB) copied, 70.3523 s, 2.3 MB/s
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Re: totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby Jocko » Mon Aug 01, 2011 7:39 pm

Ok Johan72,

I hope you successfully complete the final steps of installation.

PS: solve the problems yourself, often brings more satisfaction and understanding. ;)
But in case of difficulty, however, feel free to ask for help
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Re: totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby johan72 » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:10 pm

@Jocko, thanks for your words of support.
Yeah self solving, gives the greatest satisfaction of all, even if it means acknowledging your own lack of skills.
Especially when combined with a nice warm summer night, woodfire, good music and a cuba libre or two or so... :D

So at the bottom end I have managed to complete all steps, with 0-day linux knowledge.
(credits to the author of the install-guide)

Time to disconnect the drive and re-assemble it within the enclosure.
First time power-on, its beeping and I hear the disk making an spin-up and spin-down noise.
Beeps and the spin-up and spin-down go hand in hand.
After 16 beeps, the disk stops making the spin-up and spin-down noise, and is humming as it should.
The NAS keeps beeping, after 70-times its quiet.
Meanwhile and after beeps have stopped, I tried to retreive an IP adress throughout DHCP assignment on my router, no success.
Also tried accessing it by using the DNS adress, also no success.

I do see the LAN connectivity/activity LEDs on the back of the NAS light up, I also see TX/RX activity LED's flashing on my router.

Tried a shutdown and reboot, sames results.

What could this be? Does anyone have a suggestion for me.


TIA
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Re: totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby fvdw » Tue Aug 02, 2011 9:20 am

hi Johan72

I do not have a nwsp vs 1 myself so I do not know what the beeps means, Jocko has one maybe he knows. I use a spd8020 myself but that never beeps. But for sure it should not beep 70 times. Are you sure this is a network space vs1 ? Its important as the Linux kernel is in the firmware is dedicated for this device.
Something must be wrong with your setup, my first guess would be something with not loading the kernel as when it fails during booting the actual firmware it will not make beeps, it will just hang forever.
Another possibility is that you did not make the sda3 swap partition correctly. In that case the NAS easily runs out of memory as it has only 16 kB of RAM, without the swap working it won't work.

The command fdisk -l will display the partition structure and you can check if it has been set up properly
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Re: totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby Jocko » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:08 pm

johan72 wrote:First time power-on, its beeping and I hear the disk making an spin-up and spin-down noise.
Beeps and the spin-up and spin-down go hand in hand.
After 16 beeps, the disk stops making the spin-up and spin-down noise, and is humming as it should.
The NAS keeps beeping, after 70-times its quiet.
Meanwhile and after beeps have stopped, I tried to retreive an IP adress throughout DHCP assignment on my router, no success.
Also tried accessing it by using the DNS adress, also no success.

I do see the LAN connectivity/activity LEDs on the back of the NAS light up, I also see TX/RX activity LED's flashing on my router.

um, um!
You're sure to have a networkspace version 1 ? :roll:
The networkspace does no beep (no beep system on map) and has a single blue LED on the front in the lower part (about 2 cm wide)
Check this...
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Re: totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby johan72 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:10 pm

Hi fvdw,
It seems to be an La Cie Internet Space 500GB, so thats why it's not going as wanted.
Did get 2 identicals unit from an relativ, there is no model or type information on the outside of the unit, and the La Cie products all look very similar.


The relativ disposed the units to me, because the default LaCie software (HipServ) is a pain in the ass, to work with.
It's not being updated, lacks good windows 7/java support and so on.

Anyway I'm not in the right place on this forum, gladly I have a 2nd identical unit which I haven't touched yet, so it should be possible to make backups and restore them to the disk I altered. (did see some instructions in the first time installation manual)

Does anyone know something about custom firmware to be used with the La Cie Internet Space, it would be greatly appreciated.
I only want to use it as an basic NAS, just file storage and access, no need for download agents, user rights, and so on.....

Again my appologies for dropping in on this forum with a non-supported device.

TIA
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Re: totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby Jocko » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:20 pm

On the old forum, a guy tried to install the firmware (version 6) on a Lacie Intrenet Space. The startup script has been changed. I think that fvdw will be able to help you.
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Re: totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby johan72 » Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:25 pm

Jocko,
Ok that sounds hopefull, did search the net but no luck so far.
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Re: totally newbie, first timer needs help

Postby fvdw » Tue Aug 02, 2011 7:22 pm

If it is an internet space then what could do is use the kernel from the original device. Another guy tried it as Jocko indicated and most features seems to work he mentioned.
If you have an original disk (which should be the case if you have two devices) then you could copy the lacie kernel from sda6 of the untouched disk, command to be used
Code: Select all
dd if=/dev/sdb6 of=uImage-internetspace


Now remove the original hard disk and connect the disc you prepared according the howto guide and use the following command to write the lacie kernel to sdb6
Code: Select all
dd if=uImage-internetspace of=/dev/sdb6


In this example it is assumed that sbd is the NAS disk connected via sata->usb connector

as said probably most features will work certainly the samba and ftp server and also the media servers and torrent clients as they don't need kernel dependent stuff.
Some features like ntfs write support or nfs server won't work as they need kernel dependent stuff
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